Building Community And Making A Difference In Our World, Interview with Angela Melfi

Welcome friend to the show today.

I believe we all want to feel inspired to make a positive difference in our world.

Today’s episode is all about chasing those dreams of making a real difference in the world.

I’m super excited because we’ve got Angela Melfi on the show, co-founder of Threads Worldwide. Picture this: gorgeous, unique jewelry that’s not just about beautiful but about doing good, too.  Threads Worldwide is all about creating life-changing work for women worldwide through the creating and selling of fair trade artisan jewelry.

Angela and two of her friends set out to create a space where women artisans could truly own their craft and thrive. It’s more than just a business; it’s about building a community of leaders and change-makers, one stunning piece of jewelry at a time.

Today, we’re chatting about what it takes to build a community, the ups and downs of starting a business from scratch, and how to make a meaningful impact while wrangling kids and chaos. So let’s jump into this inspiring chat with Angela Melfi from Threads Worldwide. 

Let’s dive in! 

What You Will Learn: 

  • What is Threads Worldwide and how it was created?
  • What were the biggest challenges and obstacles starting Threads Worldwide?
  • Angela shares a few of the biggest things she has learned about herself in this process. And how she has grown as a person.
  • Empowering teen girls through social entrepreneurship.
  • Encouragement for the mom who wants to follow her passion but feels like it’s too late.

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Welcome to the Moms of Tweens and Teens Podcast. If some days you doubt yourself and don’t know what you’re doing. If you’ve ugly cried alone in your bedroom because you felt like you were failing. Well, I just want to let you know you are not alone, and you have come to the right place.

Raising tweens and teens in today’s world is not easy. And I’m on a mission to equip you to love well and to raise emotionally healthy, happy tweens and teens that thrive.

I believe that moms are heroes, and we have the power to transform our families and impact future generations. If you are looking for answers, encouragement, and becoming more of the mom and the woman that you want to be, welcome. I am Sheryl Gould. And I am so glad that you’re here.

SHERYL:  Hi, Angela; welcome to the Moms of Tweens and Teens Podcast. I am so excited to talk to you today.

ANGELA:  Thank you for having me, Sheryl. I’m excited to be here.

SHERYL:  It was so much fun. I met you, I can’t believe it. We met at Mom Con, this big conference in September, and you had a booth. And you were selling all of these beautiful pieces that I just loved. 

And so we had this big conversation, and you’re not just selling beautiful pieces; you’re making a huge difference in the world. And I want to tell you to share your story and what you’re doing. 

Your business is called Threads Worldwide. And start by asking our listeners when you started this. How did you start? And how did this come to be? 

ANGELA:  Well, first of all, I remember meeting you at Mom Con, and it was sort of like a moth to the flame with all these moms all over the place. And our gorgeous, unique jewelry. So it was fun meeting you and all the moms we met there and your company called Threads Worldwide. 

And we started 12 years ago. And when I started it with my two besties, my bestie from high school and my bestie from college. And we started it really from a passion for travel. We had been all over the world together. 

It’s something I’m proud of. I’ve visited 56 countries and counting; I want to attend as many as possible. On these trips, we always found ourselves brainstorming, dreaming, and wondering what we could do and how to work together and spend even more time together. 

And we started threads. So we had a whole bunch of different ideas along the way for different businesses. Luckily, honestly, they didn’t work out. And then, one day, there was this bolt of an idea. It sold jewelry made by women and sold through a community of women. 

And it was like boom, boom. And, okay, I listened. So okay, that’s what we’re going to do. We started it, and we had no idea what we were doing. When I say no idea, I mean we didn’t know how to start a website.

You don’t always know what you’re doing when starting something you’re passionate about. And we didn’t know how to start a website; we didn’t know how to import. I mean, we joke that we didn’t even wear jewelry. We didn’t; we were two of my best friends from college, and we met on the volleyball court. So we never even wore jewelry. 

And so it just started from this passion of connecting women. And creating a community in a way that women here in the US could tap into and feel like they’re a part of something bigger. 

SHERYL:  I was laughing because the moms that are listening, I mean that we feel like as entrepreneurs or whatever we’re doing, even if it’s, whatever it is working, a cash register that you haven’t done before. It’s like, I think we believe we should know what we’re doing before we do it. 

And then so we hold back from doing it. Rather than just like you said, I was laughing because I know how that feels, like I knew nothing. 

ANGELA:  I mean, we hear that all the time about women. I think that’s one of the reasons that women are so hesitant to start something new. Because to use the words you just said, we feel like we have to be good at it. 

Or what if I’m not good at it? Or what if I can’t give 100% instead of realizing, Oh, if I just take one step in a different direction, what door might that open up? For me? 

That’s not on this predictable path that I got on, maybe in high school, maybe college, maybe since I had my first baby, whatever it is, how can I go forward and take an action that would surprise me? And so that’s one of the things that we invite women in as well. How can you come in, be curious, and surprise yourself with what you are good at?

SHERYL:  I’m even fascinated that you went on vacation with these girlfriends. You didn’t just go to the beach. You went to different countries. And so you have this spirit of adventure. And your friends did too. 

And so were you going? I mean, you saw that I’ve read much of your writing about poverty along the way. So, did you go? How did you travel? Did you backpack? 

ANGELA:  Yeah. So we backpacked; I was lucky enough that my parents loved to travel. So, I got to travel outside the US Navy and go to comfortable places around Europe. They weren’t going to have kids. They ended up having me when they were traveling in Europe, where they were in France, and they had me. 

Then we moved back to the States. So, I was born in Versailles, France, and then moved to Lincoln, Nebraska. So, talk about opposites there. And they just always had this travel bug. So that’s how I got it. 

But, they were focused on Europe. And I mean, it’s gorgeous. But I really sort of, in a naive way, wanted to see the rest of the world. And so I remember my friend, and I went to Cambodia’s first truly developing country. And this was probably 20 ish years ago, 25 years ago. Oh my gosh. 

And I mean, we were in the capital. And there was one light in the Capitol, dirt roads, things like that people living in, I mean, I wouldn’t even, I don’t know what to call lean-tos, just living along the side of the road. And I had no idea that that is somehow how some people live. 

And I was particularly struck. We were in Krong Siem Reap in Cambodia. And isn’t there Angkor Wat? It is a famous, touristy place. And there was this little girl, who was, I don’t know how old, 5, 6,7, and she was following us. And she was she was bagging. 

We were walking her over to a grocery store because we were gonna get her some food; we didn’t want to give her money; we were told not to give money, to give food. So we walked over to give her some food. And she was walking barefoot. 

She walked through the sewage down the middle of the street and didn’t flinch. And that’s just so burned in my memory of how some people live. The extreme opposite of this amazing talent is that they have beautiful artistry, just the beauty, the art, the artisanship, and the history of some of the things they can make. 

And this is sort of jumping forward a few years, but where three threads came to be seeing how people were living and seeing an amazing talent and how that just was not correlating. It just wasn’t a match. And we realized, if we could give access to these women’s talents and have them be able to sell into a really strong market here in the US, I mean, you’re wearing jewelry, right? 

Most women wear jewelry, which is something that we’re buying already. If we could connect the two, it could make a difference in these communities and these families. And that’s what we set out to do to connect this gorgeous talent to a strong market here in the US. 

And it started from that passion and seeing we could do something about this. Then, I took a step forward and figured out a website and everything that came with it.

SHERYL:  So you decided we’re going to do this. Where did you start? Did you start with one place? 

ANGELA:  No, we didn’t. So what we did was go to Cambodia. I don’t know what 2004 or five was or anything like that. So we didn’t start until 2011. We got on a plane, went to New York, and visited a buyers’ show called New York. 

They changed the name, but it’s this huge buyer show. And they have this tiny area dedicated to global handmade and fair trade. And so that’s the section that we went to. I have no idea how we got this into our minds. 

But we went out to New York, we did this. And we went around, we went around up and down the aisles. And we met all these different artists and groups. And so that’s what we started with. 

And then, over the years, we met some of the other groups we work with through referrals and travel. Now, I’ll tell you, so you know, we start these ventures, and we have no idea what we’re doing well, and what comes with that is a ton of mistakes. 

One of the mistakes we made early on was I had this idea that I wanted to see every country in the world. Well, I wanted to work in every country that we possibly could. So, we were working with 27 different groups at the very beginning. This is a logistical nightmare. We also started to realize it wasn’t making any difference. 

So we would buy 100. Let’s say pairs of earrings from Brazil or necklaces from Nepal, but that doesn’t do anything. The most important thing we hear from our partners is sustained and consistent work; that’s what they need. They don’t need these big orders that come in and then dry up. 

What are some big retailers telling us that? I can’t remember who it was, but a big retailer came in and wanted to add Fairtrade sheets or linens to their collection. So they went in, placed this huge order, and went on. 

These artisans went and got all their sisters, cousins, nieces, and everything else to come in and create this order. And then the big retailer leaves. 

And now these women are without anything, whereas at least they had some other kind of work. Something so important to us is that we’re consistently ordering from our partners. Sometimes, we’ll even make smaller orders and spread them out because we know that that’s more important than one big order. 

So, all that to say, we went down in 2000, I think, in the 1870s. And like that, we decided we needed to go on this narrow campaign to expand, so narrow the partners that we would work with and expand our impact. So, we now work with nine groups in eight countries. 

SHERYL:  You know, it’s so interesting. You say I’m just going to expose my ignorance here. I hear the word sustainability a lot. And I think I know what that means. But when you explained it that way, it gave a whole new meaning to the world to the word, like what a difference here they bring all their cousins maybe even leave work, they have to do the big order, have all this hope that you know there’s income coming in, and then they’re gone. And scraping.

ANGELA:  And that retailer gets to say, well, we have Fairtrade sheets and linens. Now, come check out our Fairtrade collection. However, they would say ethically sourced small batch, whatever it is, let’s have more exposure. But also, that’s just not in that way. 

It’s really about being mindful; it’s another way things are sustainable. So this ring that I’m wearing, even this necklace that I’m wearing, is made from a seed. 

Before, the farmers had to cut down the trees to sell for firewood, which is not sustainable. Well, once this started, they protected those trees because they were a sustainable source of their income. So they can harvest and sell the seeds, and then the tree plants more and produces more seeds. 

So, it’s a sustainable way for them to earn an income instead of chopping down trees. We know it takes 30 years to grow back or whatever. So it’s just another way; sustainable is a buzzword, but what does that mean when you break it down and see it on the ground? It just makes you think differently about how we’re shopping.

SHERYL:  Yes. Now, tell everybody how this works. Because you are not only creating community and sustainable income for these, are they all women? 

ANGELA:  I’d say about 70% are women. And there will be men involved. There are just some cultural things that men will be involved with. In different countries, certain things are only men’s jobs.

SHERYL:  And then okay, and then you’re creating community here. And you’re also helping women here. 

ANGELA:  So that’s become one of my favorite things. This is like the origin is really in the artisans; that’s where and why we started. And it’s really over the last 12 years that we’ve been in business, the focus of the difference we’re making is here in the US. 

So when we started, like I said, my idea was selling things made by women through a community of women. We intentionally chose this model because we wanted to give women there a way to have something to call their own. 

So if you’re a mom, and you’ve spent a lot of your time and a lot of your life and your identity being a mom, well, you can start to lose yourself in that, and not everybody that works with us is a mom, and I would say probably statistically the majority are. But some women are not. 

And we just want to give women a place to come and have something to call their own, a way to get out and network and meet new women, a way to contribute and make a difference in the world, a way to make some extra money. You know, you get paid to do this kind of work. 

And it’s so much fun to be at a party and share the beautiful jewelry you got to see and some of the stories of the women we work with. It’s just an incredible feeling to be able to participate in something bigger, like really legit, like globally bigger than what’s going on sort of in your backyard. And then we also get to travel. 

So many women who work with us joined because they wanted to see something else. They’d spent their time in Cabo and some easier places to get to. They wanted to explore and go out and see the world, and the women who work with us get to travel. 

So we’re going to Vietnam in April; we were in Bolivia last April, and we just announced that we’re earning trips this year to go to Uganda. So we’re seeing this world, we’re exploring the world together.

SHERYL:  How cool is that? That is so cool. Yeah, so it’s just the building of the community. And I don’t know about you; I have a big community, but so much of it is online. That just being together physically, like having women come together. 

And you know, when you buy a piece of jewelry, you’re supporting another woman to make an income in another country. I just was fascinated reading all of your stuff. I mean, you said you’re empowering the community; you’re using business for change. 

You’re changing the cultural beliefs about women and girls, courageously rewriting what’s possible for their families and communities. And then you call them brave dreamers, which we all are, right? 

I mean, it steps out to dream to make it to create something. And then empowering women, I just love that. So there are so many levels to what you’re doing. It’s you bringing women together to have a fun evening; you’re supporting them, and you’re also supporting other women and other countries. 

ANGELA:  Yes, and you know, when you say that your community is a lot online, I think we all got through the pandemic, and there are many different ways we can communicate these days. And we hear that the biggest reason that women are hosting now, like hosting a gathering, is what we call it, or joining us as a social entrepreneur, or social impact entrepreneur, the reason that they’re doing it is because they missed their people. 

I just want to host a get a happy hour. And this is my excuse to get everyone together. And it’s a great excuse.

SHERYL:  Yeah, and meaningful, too. It’s a great excuse, but what you’re doing is making a difference when you buy my thing. So, how have you grown? Because to step into something like this and create something from nothing, it took a lot of courage. 

And what do you feel like you’ve learned? And I know we could sit here for three hours, but what do you think is one of the biggest learnings? And how do you feel like you’ve grown?

ANGELA:  The biggest thing I got is that while being a mom is central in my life, it’s not the most important thing to me. It’s really important to me to have something to call my own. Something that is a place where I can put my other talents. We invite people to use their unique gifts and talents. 

And it’s a great place to use those unique gifts and talents. And to be out and meeting women. So I think that seeing, in retrospect, has been so fulfilling and important. 

And I’ll tell you, I think I’m right on the precipice, Sheryl, because in growing this business, one of the things that I learned was that it was really easy to stay in some of the comfortable things that I saw to do to grow the business.

Like for me, some of the operational things behind the scenes things were what was comfortable. In the last two or three months, I’ve declared that this is my year, 2024. 

To grow into the woman that I’ve always wanted to be like that version of yourself that you’re like, well, when this happens, or when that happens, I can go and do this or that, and I’ll be able to be this or that. And this is it. This is the year, and it’s just continually taking action.

We’ve been around for 12 years. I’m just starting to do podcast interviews. I’m just starting to pick up social media and marketing and not to get into these specifics because your listeners don’t care about that from a business perspective. 

But those things that were scary for me, starting to make promises and sharing what I’m going to do, will hold me accountable. And so that’s what I’m learning: it’s okay to be the person I want to be; I will have to get outside of my comfort zone and do something new for me that I haven’t always done before. 

And so it’s always running in my mind, like, don’t focus on the easy operational stuff and put something off, which is where my company is getting outside my comfort zone. And so I think that, like, I think I’ve learned a lot. 

But honestly, I think I’m right on the precipice of learning some of the biggest things I’m here to learn in this business, which is exciting, 12 years in, it’s like, it’s just getting started. We’re just at the beginning of the available growth and development. 

SHERYL:  Love that! I love that this year is the year. I want to do those things, and I want to become the best version of myself. 

ANGELA:  I just keep learning that the more I say it, saying it to you and saying it out loud, the more it becomes truer. And keep practicing for me to keep practicing that. So that way, it’s a reminder all the time. 

Like I told Sheryl, I told my husband and my friend I was doing that this year. And the more I speak it over and over again, the more that it’s happening. And the more I hold myself to those words, to those promises that I’m making.

SHERYL:  Are you an introvert?

ANGELA:  I don’t know. I don’t love to be around people. I get energized. And I don’t feel comfortable out in the limelight.

SHERYL:  Yeah. Where does that put me? Yeah, I feel like I’m right in between. Yeah, I will definitely be an introvert, but I can get energized by people, and then I’m ready to go home. You know, it depends. 

Suppose I’m with a bunch of people. I don’t know; I’m more introverted. And I think that’s probably how we all are. Yeah, it’s interesting. I just wondered. 

ANGELA:  I’m happy to be at home. I love my time alone and conferences like Mom Con. Like, nobody talks to me anymore. You know? Draining, but I don’t feel uncomfortable being alone. 

SHERYL:  Yeah. I love that I want moms listening to take away and be encouraged from hearing this because so much of our identity gets caught up in our kids. And your kids are a little younger. And I know it’s so easy to lose yourself when your kids are little. 

And as they get older, I think it’s easy; it became easier for me to focus on my kids because I knew they would leave the nest. So it was like I was focusing that much more on them. 

Because it’s like, we better get this together before you leave. And you know, that’s not reality; we know we make mistakes to learn. And there’s a lot of mistakes. 

And when they do get out of the nest, they learn a ton because they’re not at home. And they have to, but it’s so easy to get focused on our kids. And I felt like I saw a big shift in my kids’ age when I started going from my own life. And then that was actually what inspired them. 

And it was cool because it was like Mom was doing something scary. Like she’s getting up and speaking in front of a big group of people. Maybe I can try out her talent show or how my daughter plays volleyball, which she has never played before. 

So, she tried out for the high school team. And she told her, you didn’t know if we would let you make it. But we could see that you were putting in a lot of effort. So we’re letting you on the team. And she said I’ve seen you take risks. Therefore, I want to do that, too. So it’s like they catch it. 

ANGELA:  And probably with your kids, my kids, they see it, and sometimes I have to talk with them. You know, I’m going to be gone. This is what I’m going to do. But they love to hear about it. And, my kids are, they’re little, they’re seven and four, and we’ve had conversations recently about lying, and I’ll tell them, you know, I lie or those difficult things.

I don’t know about your kids, but my kids eat that up as a way, I think, also to be related to. And so when we’re doing things for ourselves or are scared about. We can share about that; it gives them just like anybody, but especially them because there are little sponges; it gives them permission to be scared and try something, to make a mistake, and to live, to be able to try those different things. 

And so that’s one of the things I’ve loved bringing into it as much as they can understand. I also like seeing when I fail and getting back and trying.

SHERYL:  I love that because you’re not classifying; here’s my work. And here’s my family. But you’re including them in your process as much as you can age appropriately. And making mistakes and learning. And, sometimes, we make mistakes. And we’ve learned from that, and we grow from them.

ANGELA:  And they get to learn. And I’ve heard this from other moms in our community, other social foreigner moms, about how they’re setting up the jewelry. We have cards that talk about where it’s made, and that’s made from seed, and who made it, and the kids gravitate to it; of course, they’re gravitating to mom. 

They get to have these conversations that you wouldn’t have otherwise, about what it’s like in other countries and what it means for women to work and do you know, not all girls get to go to school around the world and those kinds of like more worldly conversations that expand their sphere of influence. 

And moms tell us how interesting it is to have these conversations with their kids when they’re eight, 9, 10, and 13. And then they overhear, specifically my business partner. She overhears her daughter sharing with her friends about, you know, trips they’ve taken, how jewelry is made, or what Fairtrade is like; it’s like that kind of ripple that gets into the next generation that I love hearing those kinds of stories.

SHERYL:  Can you show the women making your videos, and you’re showing their stories, bringing to life the fact that people live in our world? We’re so caught up, especially how our kids are growing up. It’s like a bubble in many ways, with social media and getting outside yourself. Seeing you now that there’s a bigger world and you can make a difference is how perspective is.

ANGELA:  You know, as teenagers, what you’re worried about is who likes you. And are you in or out of the friend group? And did you wear the right thing? And all of that is so natural, and maybe teens have evolved. But that was my experience when I was a teenager. 

And to be able to give some kind of perspective, I just think it makes the things that we worry about, I don’t know if I’d say smaller. But yeah, just some kind of perspective that there’s life out there. 

SHERYL:  Have you ever had teenagers? What’s your youngest social partner?

ANGELA:  The youngest we can do legally is 18. And we’ve had young kids, and I shouldn’t say young teens, we’ve had teens do it with their mom. And that’s part of my vision for where we’re going. I want this, especially as my kids grow into teenagers. And I want to start younger than that. 

I want this to be a mother-daughter adventure, where the mom and the daughter are learning about all this together, not just the things around the world, but how you speak in front of people, how you write thank you notes, and provide good customer service, how you develop relationships, how you ask for things. 

There’s so much available in training in being an entrepreneur. We’ve had a few people do it, and it’s a program that I know we’ll be building out as more and more moms get interested in wanting to try this with us.

SHERYL:  Wow, I love that. That is so exciting because they learn so many skills and do it together. And I mean, that’s one of the biggest things with all the people that I interview that have done a lot of research on tweens and teens is them knowing that they have purpose and meaning for their lives and that there’s something like you said the beginning. 

They can say there’s something bigger out there. And that can make just a huge, huge difference. 

ANGELA:  I don’t know if you got to this on our website. It’s not prominent, but it’s called a collaboration club. So, we have a collaboration club where moms and kids can do it together. But it’s not like I said; it’s not something we built up fully. I don’t know that it would make that much difference. 

But you know, I also see adding new items, more specifically for teens, maybe creating a teen collection. I mean, many of our things are crossover, and many moms who have teens say, Oh, my daughter loves this, my daughter loves that. 

But even like, that’s where I see the vision going. So, if any of your listeners are the ones who collaborate with me about that, get in touch because I’m ready to go.

SHERYL:  Yeah, my daughter loved it. I got the pearl earrings, though. Yeah, she loves the hoops that you had. And I don’t buy things very often. And then you had some hammered hoops. And I bought those from my other daughter, and I never buy them anything because I always get it wrong. And they loved loved the earrings.

ANGELA:  The best validation for our collection. Teenager or 20, something like what we have. I feel so validated. 

SHERYL:  So I’m telling them you know how to find out about you so they can connect. I think we’ll put this in a newsletter. I love the idea of a collaboration club. 

Before we go, I want you to tell me all about yourself. But can you tell one story that’s been a powerful story of the difference it made?

ANGELA:  Yes. And you could tell 100. So I’ll tell one. There’s a Guatemalan mom, Marla, who was one of the first people to start the cooperative where she lives; she had three daughters, and you know where she lived in Guatemala.

These girls are predicted to marry at 14 or 15 and have kids at 15 or 16. They move away from their family and move in with their in-laws. Imagine moving in with your in-laws, and now you’re running that household at 15. Probably pregnant. Okay, that’s the predictable future for most kids there, especially girls.

So Marla had three daughters, and she saw a different future for her daughters, so she went and started this cooperative. Really, not with the support of her husband. I won’t go through every conversation and how hard it was for her. It is very, very difficult for her daughter. 

Rocio is her youngest, and when it was time for Rocio to go into fifth grade, her husband said no, we’re not going to worry about Rocio going to school because they have to pay for school, not for school as much as the uniforms. 

We won’t invest in Rocio attending school because she will get pregnant and marry somebody else anyway. Why invest in girls? So Rosie and her mom are let go and have multiple conversations with their father and grandfather. 

Rocio is writing letters to her grandfather about why she should be able to attend school, and Marla is just steadfast in her belief that Rocio is going to school. Rocio is going to school, and Rocio is going to school every year. They are getting chills every year, and they must have this conversation with the dad and the grandfather every year. 

It’s more expensive for her to be able to go to school. When we saw her three years ago, she was just finishing university. She was talking about how she would be a kindergarten teacher and how, like you’ve never seen somebody smile ear to ear, painting the picture of her dream to be a kindergarten teacher. 

So fast forward two or three years, and she runs the girls’ club for the cooperative as she creates the curricula for these girls’ clubs across Guatemala. 

And just recently, the head person went back and met her dad for the first time, went back and met her dad and her dad was in tears thanking her, her name is Maria, for starting this opportunity that she gave that he gave to Marla, his wife, and his three daughters because I just told about Rocio, but the two other daughters also graduated from university as well. I think one’s going to be a pharmacist. 

So, generationally, you can see the difference there, like Marla is now engaged. She’s 25 and hopes she’s not pregnant; she would have a 10-year-old and probably have five or six kids. And I don’t know what that alarm is worth; she probably has five or six kids, but because Marla’s dream was so strong and she had the opportunity, it transformed that generation. 

Now, when the kids get together with these women, the women’s dreams are for their kids to finish school. Hands down, education. Now those kids have their dreams: I’m going to be a pharmacist, I’m going to be a doctor, I’m going to be a fashion designer, I’m going to be a teacher like it’s a done deal for them. They’re the next generation in Guatemala, which would not happen without this work.

SHERYL:  Wow. Powerful change of generations.

ANGELA:  And that’s one of hundreds.

SHERYL:  And make such a difference in their lives.

ANGELA:  I just want to say one thing: I know we’re getting close to wrapping. But you know, one of the things that we do is take trips down to Guatemala to see and meet and catch up with these friends, artists and partners, and business partners that we work with. And we take moms and daughters. 

So I got to take my six-year-old when she was six; last January, she got to go to Guatemala and meet all of these women on a boat in the middle of Lake Atitlan. Eat new foods and stay in beautiful hotels; we stay in this stunning former monastery, the most beautiful place I’ve ever seen. 

And moms get to take their kids, usually moms, a couple of men have gone well. We’re welcoming to everybody. Statistically, it’s mostly moms and daughters, moms and sons. So that’s just something else. 

If any of your listeners are curious about traveling with us, contact me about that as well. We call them soul journeys. And they’re just life-changing and so much fun. And it’s easy to travel. Okay, my six-year-old can do it. Your kids can do it.

SHERYL:  Wow. Okay. Tell them where to find you and how to connect with you because I know there will be moms who want to.

ANGELA:  Yes, so we are all over the web at Threads Worldwide. That’s on Instagram and Facebook. and I’m Angela

SHERYL:  Love it. You won’t be able to get off the website to talk about the values, videos, and so good and beautiful products. 

ANGELA:  Told you we needed three hours.

SHERYL:  Next time, we’ll have to show we’ll do it. Well, you’re showing the beautiful doing Instagram; you can show you know all the beautiful things the women make. 

ANGELA:  Yeah, and that’s something else I’d say. I promise your listeners I’m gonna get more and more on Instagram. It’s a stretch for me this year. And if you know of anybody in any other places I should podcast or do live, please contact me. I am ready to spread the word about all the amazing things that our partners are doing.

SHERYL:  I love it. Well, thank you so much, Angela, for being here.

ANGELA:  It was really fun to see you again.

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